Sydney Trad Dingo counter-culture: ‘Alt-Right’ youth wiser to take the Nationalist high road

by Dr. Jim Saleam, July 6 2017



I link through here to an article published by United Nationalists Australia.

It concerns the meeting of the Dingo counter-culture held Saturday night July 1 2017 in Sydney. I consider the article a valuable contribution to the discussion on the Alt-Right in Australia and on the counter-cultural struggle in general.

But first, some preliminaries.

The article begins by stating I was not an invitee to this meeting and goes on to reason that my article ‘Rape House’ (June 27), that exposes the scammers who are trying to hijack the ‘Dingo’ counter-culture, caused consternation amongst attendees.

Of course I would say the crooks knew what I was getting at, while some of the newbies might have felt I was being difficult to the max, and not knowing the nature of these scammers – they would opt to shoot the messenger.

However before I proceed, there was another important point said clearly by United Nationalists Australia (UNA) for the benefit of all. It was said that the comments of the UNA media group are its own and that neither I nor Australia First Party control their site and so on. An independent media group invites many different people to write for it and will collect different shades of reflection on various subjects. Any mistake made (if any are made), any hyperbole, any error of detail and so forth, are the look out of the author/s and that is it. Hence, while I recommend this article, I would add to it to further the discussion.

I would suggest that there is a logic to Australian nationalist ideology and politics.

It is founded upon a nativist appreciation of the Australian identity and it is based to a great degree upon the historical old-schools of Australian radical-nationalism and labourism, the essential principles that saw the Nation born.

Further, it is argued these principles were restated after the Great Betrayal of 1966 (the abolition of the traditional immigration policy). The ideology called forth a new nationalist politics and there has been consistent struggle thereafter. Yes, we have been at the margins, but we are legitimate and we are ‘real’. It is only within the parameters of this ideology and politics is a counter-culture intended to challenge establishment liberalism and globalism capable of construction.

An Alt-Right (if I may call it such) may have any number of proper views upon the nature of the decaying liberal society that is modern Australia. It may offer a fraternity to sustain its followers. But where that critique and that fraternity goes, is the question.

Howsoever any counter-cultural movement acts, it comes up against an inexorable history. It can flow into this movement of Australian Nationalism – or not. If not, it splutters and dies. If it does, it adds lustre to an existent struggle.

In that regard, I would have an optimistic view of a new movement.

I say that despite the presence of crooks and deceivers who would use it for their own purposes.

Once mobilized, there will be those who will surely take the nationalist road. They should take this road as it offers participation in the historical struggle for national rebirth.

Many of those who will take that road are the leaders of the real movement tomorrow.

The UNA article recorded that the organizers of the Dingo meeting said I was a “divisive” figure for their purpose. That would be true because I am in contention with them. In this struggle, the core matter is not about any particular personality, but about ideals. There are many personalities in this true movement. They too are “divisive” (sic) because they demand a selfless service to the ideal. And their ideal like mine is not that of the band of ‘conservatives’ and civic patriots who would hijack the Dingoes.

I have confidence that the Dingo youth shall seek out and find the nationalist road.


by United Nationalists Australia,  July 6 2017

“You say 1488, I say 1788”
~   Matthew Grant


There is a valid reason we lead this week’s story on last Saturday night’s ‘Dingocon‘ with the brilliant quote above.

It is all to do with a difference of perspective which separates Australian Nationalist activists from those inside the ‘Australian alt-right’ phenomenon.

Do not misunderstand us; we are not out to trash the Dingoes. We merely bear the kind of admonitions one should expect from us, as well as sober observations from the perspective of those involved in a political movement informed by experience.

Firstly, no UNA member was in attendance on the evening in question. It was not expected that we would be invited any more than would Australia First Party (AFP) president Jim Saleam have been.

The ad forgot to say:   “Political Nationalists Not Welcome!

Nobody from the Australian Protectionist Party was invited either, although we understand Nationalist Alternative was represented.
Contrary to popular belief, we state again, Jim Saleam wields no influence over United Nationalists Australia regardless of whether some of our writers are AFP members. We offer ALL true Nationalists an opportunity of expression, but so far only AFP members have accepted that invitation, which permanently stands. As such, Jim Saleam is totally free to submit whenever he wishes, and we are delighted to publish him.

Likewise, AFP often shares links to UNA material, and we are grateful for the extended reach that affords us. We are, after all, working together in the interests of the Australian nationalist movement. AFP is internationally recognised for its work in nationalism.

It is all to do with a difference of perspective which separates Australian Nationalist activists from those inside the ‘Australian alt-right’ phenomenon.

We raise the subject of Jim Saleam, as we learned from sources that he was a contentious figure at Dingocon. There was an implication that his article ‘Rape House’ was a mitigating factor in the snub. In fact, a UNA rep met with Dingocon’s organiser a few weeks before the convention so we could suss each other out. The message was then as it was afterwards that Jim Saleam was “too much of a divisive figure”. The question is, divisive for whom? We shall get to that, although this matter is only a sidebar subject of this article.

In fact, if you want to get down to brass tacks, it was the Australian Nationalist Movement in its Political aspect that was excluded from Dingocon. So let us stop for a moment and ask, what is a Dingo?

A Dingo

UNA always regarded a Dingo as an editorial contributor to the Podcast bearing the name of the Dingoes; although in fact (according to one youth we asked) it is a generic appellation for nativist followers of Australia’s alt-right counter-culture. We knew anyway, we just wanted to hear how they described themselves.

They are irreverent, social-media savvy, politically-incorrect, meme-focused, and just like their American cousins communicate via their own coded lingo. Their weapon is humour with a generous dash of irony.

In fact, if you want to get down to brass tacks, it was the Australian Nationalist Movement in its Political aspect that was excluded from Dingocon.

So let us stop for a moment and ask, what is a Dingo?


This Sydney old tie counter-culture rejects the “old school” Nationalists as irrelevant.

In short, they are full of the self-assuredness of youth, and the conviction that in their freshness and vigour they will be able to institute a change that us others have thus far ‘failed’ to deliver.

Moreover, they are not interested in political activism in the conventional sense and wouldn’t lay a vote AFP’s way; although they follow One Nation because they have this idea about invading its youth wing. According to one who was close to the Dingoes of the Podcast fame, while they might employ the usual alt-right National Socialist schtick, they are quite civic in regards to homosexuals and even on the Zionist question.

We cannot comment on that claim other than to say the young person who told us seemed sound. Others suggest this youngster has issues.
Here, we wish to refute accusations that UNA is “hostile” to the Dingoes in regards to the loose affiliation of those who collect under its banner. We are not hostile to them in any way. But we know those behind the Dingoes’ curtain are very much hostile to us, but more so to Jim Saleam.

Matthew Grant, a right Dingo

“You say 1488, Matt says 1788!”

At this point, our commentary splits into two key areas: addressing those operators behind that curtain, and the nature of this ‘Dingo’ counterculture and how it relates to the spirit of The Australian Nationalist Movement.

Again, we refer back to our initial meeting with Dingocon’s organiser.  It was made clear to UNA that Jim Saleam was in no uncertain terms unwelcome.

Following Dingocon the word was that he had been the subject of much derision. So we ask ourselves, why would a young scene that has had no prior dealings with Jim Saleam prejudice him thus?

The short answer is they wouldn’t. It is those operating the convention that sought to isolate him from the various guests.

Who are these operators?

Apart from ex-Klub Nation’s David McBryde, who Dingocon’s organiser refused to discuss, we have also confirmed the presence of Luke Torrisi, whom he particularly declined to comment on.

We cannot comment on that claim other than to say the young person who told us seemed sound. Others suggest this youngster has his or her own issues. The point in mentioning is to allow for a fuller coverage of the subject.

Torrisi is a ‘paleoconservative’ and a contributor to the ultra-conservative Sydney Traditionalists. We have had unconfirmed reports, too, that Torrisi was a past financier of Nick Folkes and the Party for Freedom.

The Sydney Trads and Nationalists acrimoniously diverge on the question of a White Australia (they are conservatives after all). Yet, Torrisi hosts a conservative show Monday nights on 88.9FM on which he will give a conspiratorial ‘wink’ to White Nationalism; even though he is fundamentally at odds with it.

Two other names have come our way, but we cannot confirm either was present, and they are associates of McBryde — Morgan Qasabian (ex-Klub Nation), and Dylan Anderson.


It’s all about the Principle on the Sydney Trad Forum’s colours: 

“Our forum provides a safe space in which a diverse group of thinkers across the ‘rightist’ spectrum can engage in metapolitical discourse on theory. In addition to our regular contributors to this website, the following representatives from around the world have been involved in the STF Symposia between 2015 to 2017:

♣ Prof. Paul E. Gottfried ♣ Prof. Thomas F. Bertonneau ♣ Prof. Barry Spurr ♣ Adj. Prof. Richard Cocks ♣ Dr. Krzysztof Urbanek ♣ Dr. Peter King ♣ Dr. Frank K. Salter ♣ Dr. Alain de Benoist ♣ Dr. Tomislav Sunić ♣ James Kalb ♣ Kristor J. Lawson ♣ Luke Torrisi ♣ Brett Stevens ♣ Michael W. Davis ♣ Morgan Qasabian ♣ Gwendolyn Taunton ♣ Alastair Hermann ♣ Alastair Paynter ♣ Urho Lintinen ♣ Valdis Grinsteins ♣ Michael Tung ♣ Johannes Ekjord ♣

If there is one message that UNA has been tirelessly pushing it is the threat to Nationalism posed by manipulative conservatives. It is a story as old as Zeus and it never seems to change.

Here we have a fledgling movement in the sphere of influence of conservatives.

In a December 2016 article on The Dingoes, Pommy social researcher John Smith said ‘these groups are’, “People saying things which aren’t themselves objectionable, which appeal to people’s sense of patriotism and identity. It is often used as a way of smuggling in a kind of much more nationalist politics, a politics which is much further right than most people would agree with.”

However, Smith does not venture to consider that the very opposite might be the case, and people might say objectionable things as a means of smuggling in a more conservative politics than the third position of where true Nationalism must inevitably end up. We contend this is exactly what is happening.

Two other names have come our way, but we cannot confirm either was present, and they are associates of McBryde — Morgan Qasabian (ex-Klub Nation), and Dylan Anderson.

It is little wonder those organisers would not have countenanced Jim Saleam coming among them or even the Australian Protectionist Party, who are similarly wise to their scam. It is not that these Dingoes are necessarily going to be rewired into conservatives but rather that the whole counter-culture ends up being steered out to sea. And would that bother Nationalists? In a sense, no it wouldn’t.

A prominent Dingo figure told a UNA reporter, in conversation, that the fundaments of this young generation involve a conscious shift from a Beta type to an Alpha. This means they look to building themselves up both physically, in the gym, and socially, in their earning power (and there is nothing wrong at all with doing so). According to him, there is a competitive edge to the alt-right youth as they seek to dominate, and become “superior to” the bloke next to him. There is no distinction of whether this other “bloke” happens to be White also, in which case, the competitiveness becomes for its own sake.

David McBryde, the Alt-Right factional numbers man behind the Dingocon curtain


Bear in mind, too, just as an interesting observation, that women are noticeably excluded from this counter-culture – it’s a Chris Pyne thing.

Our characterisation of the alt-right as a counterculture, as opposed to a Political movement, seems right enough. From what we can gather, this subculture is by its nature upwardly mobile, and consciously elitist. In essence, those are the persnickety qualities of the Young Liberals, even if those involved haven’t realised it. If what our source told us is on the money, then by that description they risk becoming concerned with acquisition and confusing status with strength, while pride in race becomes simply pride.

There is also, speaking plainly, arrogance on show. The contention that anyone over the age of 25 who has been involved in the movement longer than yesterday is somehow a failure demonstrates a total lack of comprehension of the enormity of what our people face. It is not a matter of convincing the masses they need Alpha heroes to worship, but of bringing down an immovable system.

Those in the American alt-right might have noticed this about their ‘Emperor God’ Donald Trump. Sure, he won the Presidency, but any idealistic notions he may have had of seriously changing things have been thwarted by the very system that has stymied — and will continue to block — Australian Nationalists at every turn.

Taking the high road always wiser than through the swamp

Characters like McBryde and Torissi arguably ARE that system, if they are only concerned with matters of tradition, and by interposing themselves in the Dingo counterculture they are meddling. In their desire to misdirect these kids from Nationalism, they might not be intent on creating an ‘alt-light’, but simply a movement unable to actually move anywhere. This is the risk it faces on its own, anyway, as it is in danger of being stuck in a cul-de-sac from where it cannot advance onto political turf because it is founded purely on counterculture codes and insider signalling.

Moreover, the very quality of ‘youth’ being flaunted is undermined by the fact the people organising them are old men. We find this particularly ironic. UNA reiterates, however, that we are not concerned either way. For our part, we do not wish to influence this Dingo subculture. Frankly, it is irrelevant to us.

Far more relevant to Aussies than a foreign swastika !

Our purpose IS political and it is not egos we as Nationalists aim to shape but the hearts and minds of White Australians. The mass of White Aussies who voted in Pauline Hanson’s One Nation to the Senate believing they were getting a Nationalist were not cocky youths judging them on their cut pecs and speccy hairstyles. The Australians who we need do not understand the code-words used by the Alt-Right, nor do they necessarily ‘get’ their memes. For memes will not fill their bellies, nor save their jobs, or stop them from becoming homeless.

The Australians that Nationalism needs are aged from ten to a hundred. We do not judge them on their body shape, or whether they can afford boutique beers at a trendy foodie establishment for we know they cannot.

UNA reiterates, however, that we are not concerned either way. For our part, we do not wish to influence this Dingo counter-culture. Frankly, it is irrelevant to us.

Right now, the Australians whose support we seek are begging charity to help them pay for unaffordable utility bills. They are dying in hospital queues while waiting rooms are overcrowded by an unsustainable influx of non-White aliens generated by the very conservatives whose obsequiousness to the globalist powers open our airport gates. The solidarity that these conservatives share with America and therefore Israel keep us involved in illegal military actions in the Middle East which generate a ceaseless traffic of non-Whites and Moslems hell-bent on knocking down this spiritually desolate marketplace our nation has become (which isn’t a bad thing) and instating a state founded on a Semitic faith (which is an egregious prospect).

While some devote themselves to executing “edgy” performances with National Socialist symbols in the belief they are spearheading a counter-cultural revolution, Australians are disappearing in the blackening shadows of Chinese-owned tower blocks soon to be filled with our replacement population. To date, no known Larrikinism, or meme, has been able to prevent Chinese entry into our country.

The Australia we wish to change is not within the clique of a single generation but out there in the un-sexy wild of the Australian suburbs and rural zones.

They might give 88 an Aussie twist, but it’s still 88, and as Matthew Grant said, “You say 14/88, I say 1788.” You say, Adolf Hitler, we say, William Lane, Jack Lang, John Curtin, Percy Stephensen and Henry Lawson. You say Nuremberg, we say Lambing Flats.

We close by reminding our readers that this is in no way intended as a sledge against this alt-right counterculture nor do we even regard it as an infallible account of it. We are on different paths anyway. We also stress that just because individuals turned up to Dingocon does not mean they have been influenced by a strain of conservatism they might otherwise find unacceptable if those we mentioned do hold undue sway.

We are just responding to the fact that Nationalism was stopped from entering the doors of Dingocon last Saturday night. And while we applaud the alt-right for being there and exhibiting signs of cockiness, UNA reminds our young friends that we’ve been down this road ourselves and as much as you think that it’s new it really doesn’t change. We all started out brimming with confidence and believing our predecessors had dropped the ball.

Awaiting you, young friends is all the hurt that is part and parcel of the struggle against the one-world government. Awaiting you is doxing, broken friendships, backstabbing, betrayal and potential loss of income. Awaiting you is aggro, and total silence from those who you thought were your allies but turn out to be no better than window dummies when you are dropped in it. You will be lied about, misrepresented, they will call you names, accuse you of things you haven’t done, and in some cases, they will jail you. Perhaps some have already figured this out. In the end, you will learn the bitter lesson that things are not (pardon the pun) black and White and those who you would think are like us turn out to be bigger enemies than the Trots on the Left.

Nationalist Dingo

This Dingo eats conservatives